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--Jeff Ogden (W163) (talk) 21:24, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Notability?

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At 11:43 on 15 August 2012‎ IP 193.1.200.66 added a Notability template to this article without entering an edit summary or starting a talk page discussion: {{notability}}

I created the article and so I think that Dennis Jennings is notable. He lead the U.S. National Science Foundation's NSFNET project at a time when several very important decisions were made that ultimately fostered the growth of TCP/IP networking in the U.S. and around the world and set us on the path that would in less than 10 years time lead to the Internet as we know it today. He is listed in the List of Internet pioneers article following a suggestion made on that article's talk page. I believe that the references on the article establish these facts and his notability. Unless strong arguments are made to the contrary here in the next few days, I plan to remove the notability template. --Jeff Ogden (W163) (talk) 17:12, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Done I went ahead and removed the template. --Jeff Ogden (W163) (talk) 23:03, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Notability again?

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At 13:42 on 25 January 2013‎ IP 193.1.200.66 added a notability template to the article with an edit summary that said "Not notable enough to warrant a wikipedia entry". No additional explanation and no discussion was started about this on the talk page. As explained above I don't agree that Dennis Jennings is not notable. Unless someone objects, I will remove the notability template in a few days. --Jeff Ogden (W163) (talk) 13:17, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Done I went ahead and removed the notability template. If others disagree, we can continue the discussion here. --Jeff Ogden (W163) (talk) 15:38, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Done again. A notability template was added at 11:28 on 26 February 2013‎ by 83.71.253.2 with no edit summary and no discussion on this talk page. I removed the template. --Jeff Ogden (W163) (talk) 02:44, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Done yet again. A notability template was added at 07:54 on 28 May 2013‎‎ by 83.71.253.2 with no edit summary and no discussion on this talk page. I removed the template (for the third time). --Jeff Ogden (W163) (talk) 10:17, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Done yet again. A notability template was added at 10:57 on 30 August 2013‎ by 86.44.71.110 with no edit summary and no discussion on this talk page. I removed the template (for the fourth time). --Jeff Ogden (W163) (talk) 15:04, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Done yet again. A notability template was added at 11:39 on 10 October 2013‎ by 87.198.179.230 with an edit summary that said "Not notable enough" and no discussion on this talk page. I removed the template (for the fifth time). --Jeff Ogden (W163) (talk) 02:35, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Notability feedback A person sitting on a sub committee, that eventually lead to the internet, is not notable enough to warrant a Wikipedia page - that is his "claim to fame". I will continue to add the notability tag until such time as someone other than Jeff Ogden (W163) comments on Dennis' notability 86.46.29.131 (talk) 15:27, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And I will continue to remove the notability template until there is a discussion on the talk page that reaches a consensus about his notability. I'd welcome such a discussion. The comments by 86.46.29.131 above were the first comments here by someone other than me beyond drive by additions of the notability template by anonymous IPs. If we are going to sort this out, we need to have a real discussion. And ideally that discussion should include more that two or three editors. I'll leave the template for now, but if a more serious discussion doesn't get started within a week or two, I'll likely delete it once again. --Jeff Ogden (W163) (talk) 18:36, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. I removed the notability template. We can still have a discussion of the issue of notability here on the talk page, if anyone is interested. --Jeff Ogden (W163) (talk) 23:41, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Dennis Jennings was not "a person sitting on a sub committee". He was, among other things, the Program Director for Networking at the National Science Foundation. He was also the Director of Computing Services at the University College Dublin for 23 years, interim President of the Consortium for Scientific Computing at the John von Neumann Centre (JvNC) in Princeton, New Jersey, Chairman of the Oversight Board of the Irish Centre for High-End Computing, and held leadership roles with several important European Internet networking organizations (EARN, EBONE, HEAnet, CENTR) and the international organization ICANN. And it is difficult to overstate the importance of the decisions that were made while he was working for NSF. In particular the decision to use TCP/IP. The use of TCP/IP was not the easy or obvious decision back in the mid-1980s that it might seem to have been today. There were the competing OSI protocols (X.25 and CLNP) as well as proprietary protocols from DEC (DECNet), IBM (SNA), Novell (IPX), and many more. TCP/IP wasn't included in the U.S. government's GOSIP specification until 1995. --Jeff Ogden (W163) (talk) 18:36, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In April 2014 Jennings was inducted into the Internet Hall of Fame.[1] --Jeff Ogden (W163) (talk) 05:24, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]


  1. ^ "Dennis Jennings Internet Hall of Fame Pioneer", Internet Hall of Fame, April 2014. Retrieved 27 June 2014.
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